Is Cookie being a racist, part II

Also I saw this. Which also affected decision.
Never heard anyone complaining about segregation in this matter :person_facepalming:

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I’m sure she hasn’t heard of ‘Constructive critisism’
If she had a problem with it, she could have messaged you privately and suggest you to change it because that’s the whole point of CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISISM. It was unnessecary to call you out like that.
You weren’t being racist by the way, it was a simple way to describe afro/poc hair.

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Yeah but it says “Black Cultural” as in saying it’s apart of black culture.

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I have no words…Langdon what on earth?!

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Personally I would have written afro . or just put it with the others. but I find it a stupid thing to get angry over. its like calm down people. you are over reacting. its just a word. had she written N-word then it would have been racist but black is not.

I am sorry for saying my opinion on this because I am white and mine properly dont matter as much

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I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Lol when I was engaged in these types of discussions people were saying that white people couldn’t wear these types of hair. I honestly don’t care what hair anybody wears, or what its called. I think the name makes sense. :woman_shrugging:

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I just wanna say that I love the discussion here. I totally get that “Afro Hair and Black Cultural” wouldn’t fit nor would “Protective Styling” or something but I think the biggest takeaway is how easily people can discuss things here compared to other places.

It’s so cool to see people treat others with respect, even in matters that can be highly sensitive, so basically good job, people on the internets!

And no, I don’t think you were being racist, Cookie.

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I don’t think categorising certain hairstyles as ‘black’ is that big of the deal. I understand what Langdon meant, but she shouldn’t call you and the author out like that. Instead, she could’ve just PM you and suggested it quietly.

‘Black’ wouldn’t be the term I’d use, but you’re not being racist. It’s not like you mocked or insulted people.

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I personally don’t see how you’re being racist by using the word “black” :woman_shrugging:t4:. I will agree that it’d be better if you used other words, such as “Afro” - as PensiveShadow said, and not “black”, but I am certain that your intent behind writing “black” meant no harm.

I think that person shouldn’t have called you and those contest winners out like that. I mean, yeah, I get what she meant, but she should have PMed you and the writers respectfully and calmly.

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@itsjenn_a Did make a good point saying “Black” is way too broad of a term to use considering black people’s hair can range from many types. It’s different if you put Black Cultural because you’re saying it’s apart of the black culture which isn’t incorrect. Afro would be best since the styles used for it is for Afro hair and can be considered as implying it’s Afro textured.

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Definitely not racist. I remember back when there was a debate about whether or not white characters should wear protective hairstyles. Now, I understand that non-black people’s hair has a different texture, and wouldn’t be able to hold protective hairstyles like dreads or box braids the same way. However, some people were saying that non-blacks couldn’t even wear the two thick cornrow braids, (called Double Dutch braids, I think?) but those have a different texture than the protective hairstyles.

And now, when there is a category for protective hairstyles, this person gets angry just because it’s called ‘Black’, and tries starting drama on a thread that was for congratulating the contest winners. Like other people said, the best approach would be to PM (or DM for those who have Instagram and aren’t on the forums) and point it out instead of making it public. She could even suggest a better alternative for ‘Black’, just like Shadow and Jenn did. :purple_heart:

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Langdon is annoying. She even has a racist story that degrades black people so she really has no say for us. :rofl:

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Actually, the braids are a black style, it’s just not exclusive to only black culture. They aren’t “Dutch braids” as Episode claims they are because Dutch braids are looser. The correct name they should have given it is Two Cornrow braids. It is a black style however, non-black people can wear it if they have a curly or Afro texture. :woman_shrugging:t4: There’s Native Americans that have that style apart of their culture, I don’t see no problem with it. Same with Hispanics and the Latin community.

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Tbh what I don’t think a lot of native English speakers remember is that a lot of the nuances of offensive words comes from being a native English speaker, especially one who grew up in America. For people who grew up speaking another language, it doesn’t matter how perfect their English is. Their mind isn’t going to default to the “this doesn’t sound right” that comes from the history of the word unless they’re told before.

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I think Langdon has the right to be upset. Maybe she could of been of been a little less harsh about it, but she has the right to be upset. Using the world “black” is a bit too broad like a couple of others mentioned above and we’re all entitled to our own opinion. :woman_shrugging:t4:

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I don’t think anyone’s denying her right to be upset but she could and should have approached it differently. Derailing a thread to congratulate winners of a contest to start bs over a cc template instead of going to the source (aka Cookie) and having a civil conversation just isn’t it.

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There’s a time and a place for everything and that just wasn’t it.

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That’s what I was saying here. She could of taken a better approach. I didn’t know it was a congratulation thread.

I also don’t think anyone is denying that. I just thought I’d mention that, bc I don’t wanna seem like I’m bashing Langdon or anything like that.

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well what do people think

but things change. maybe the hair style never was from dutch land. like Danish. that pastry is not from Denmark. its actually from Austria

or maybe did black people made it part of ther culture like Danish people made the Danish pastery part of theres.

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Cornrows and Dutch braids are two different styles

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