Toxic/Abusive Friendships

~I wanted to import my old thread from wattpad because it’s still important to raise awareness about these types of things~

Firstly, I’m not sure if there is a “clear” definition of what a toxic friendship is because the toxicity between friends is not always obvious - not only to those looking on the outside but to the people involved.

When I was in a toxic friendship, I always knew something deep down something was wrong, but I ignored it as I was in a position of stay with A or be a loner.

Luckily, I’ve moved on from the situation I was in when I first made the thread. I’m in the process of making new friends and I don’t really associate with the toxic friend(s) anymore. However, healing is a process. I’m still aware of what happened in the past and it’s something I can move on from, but not forget. The scars are still there.

Here are the signs of a toxic friendship. I might not have included everything but I think it’s so useful to know the signs especially if you think you are in a toxic friendship right now. To quote me from a few months ago, "Even if you are in a healthy friendship I would heavily recommend giving them a quick read because friendships, in my opinion, are so normalised that the negatives are widely overlooked. Even in the [article that I linked at the time], it mentions that these actions would never fly with a partner or relative. So why a friend?:

[This list is summarised in this video by Maha Maven:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xah0PkHB-CQ]

  • They peer pressure you - they make you do things they know you don’t want to do and your fear is dismissed.
  • They encourage you to go against your values - similar to peer pressure, they pressure you into doing things you don’t agree with and go against your gut feelings.
  • You don’t trust them - you find yourself doing things in advance because you know what the “friend” is like. You don’t like leaving valuables with them or telling them personal information.
  • They are happy when you fail - when something goes wrong for you, they jokingly laugh or smirk.
  • They downplay your successes - when you win, they try to one-up it by making the conversation about themselves or trying to shift the convo to something else.
  • They insult you - they either subtly or blatantly make fun of you. When you point it out they claim they were joking and accuse you of being defensive.
  • You can’t fully express yourself around them - you feel like you have to water down and keep parts of yourself hidden out of shame or embarrassment.
  • You feel negative because of them - during and after interacting with them you feel sadness, anger or exhaustion. You feel relieved in instances when they’re not around.
  • They don’t take your hobbies, talents, passions or future seriously - they laugh, scoff or smirk when you talk about something you are passionate about.
  • They embarrass you publically - they make you feel humiliated or exposed in large groups of people or groups of people you don’t know.
  • They lie to you - you can recall multiple instances of them lying to you. A common example of this is saying they will repay you for doing a good deed for them, but never doing it.
  • They dislike it when you hang out with other people - they accuse you of “ditching” them when you spend more time with someone else and that you are neglecting them.
  • They only talk to you when they need something - after ignoring you for a long time, they may only talk to you occasionally. Each of these times, they ask you to do something for them such as asking for an object or for you do work for them. They accuse you of selfishness if you refuse.
  • They use up all of your time - you find yourself going above and beyond for them. They want constant interaction from you. You are considered “selfish” for wanting to spend time alone.
  • They constantly victimize themselves - when you call out their behaviour they recall all the positive moments you have had with them. They will bring up their loyalty and kindness and how it will all be lost if you choose to cut them off. Sometimes they will distort, lie about and exaggerate the kind acts they’ve done for you.
  • They are overall, manipulative - You are portrayed as displaying harsh behaviour whenever you defend yourself. They frame your other friends or even family members as trying to take you away from them or “rude” when the friend or family member calls the toxic friend out. They make you doubt your own feelings and emotions.

My advice if you’re in a toxic friendship is to leave whenever you can - this is when the toxic friend begins to ditch you or constantly talks about how you “mistreat” them in the friendship. It’s ok if it takes a long time to do this. It’s not your fault. The toxic friend will frame you as the bad guy, but I can guarantee it’s better to be the villain for staying true to yourself than the good guy for appeasing someone at the cost of your well-being. If you feel bad for cutting off the toxic friend, that is also ok. You have been conditioned to feel attached to them so you will struggle a bit to separate yourself from them. Also, talk to someone you trust.


Whenever I’m going through a tough time, there’s always that one song that helped me push through. Some of these are about toxic friendships. Some are just sad. Some are supposed to cheer you up. Some are a bit of everything. If there’s a song that helped you in your toxic friendship let me know!:

*Links to the songs are now added :purple_heart:

If you’re in a toxic/abusive friendship, IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. You aren’t weak for staying, you’re not mean for leaving, you aren’t at fault for struggling to reach out. I wish someone would have told me this. You are deserving of productive, positive and healthy friendships.

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I’ve been in many toxic friendships, infact I’ve recently left one. However, there are certain things on the list that on their own might not actually be harmful or could be easily misinterpreted. Also sometimes you’ve gotta look at your own actions and think “was I a toxic friend” it’s really easy to push the blame on other people but most of the time, nobodies hands are clean in the situation. That’s just my opinion anyway.

However, if you are in a toxic friendship end it there’s no point in hanging around them, you owe them nothing. Despite what I said earlier, don’t beat yourself up over a crappy friendship, they happen to all of us and you’re not alone.

Another thing though, don’t s#it talk them to other people i.e. spreading rumours or turning people against them especially if it’s years down the line. Just end the friendship and try to move on and grow from it. If you keep talking down about them you’re not really moving on and I know the stuff they did hurts I’m not saying don’t talk about it, talk about it with family or close friends don’t post things like “this person is a b*tch make way for the wolf in sheeps clothing”

Just end the friendship.

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I’m also going to post the links to some songs that helped me. Sorry for the swear word in the title.

F*ck you and all your friends - Falling in reverse
True Friends - Bring me the horizon
Come for me - New Years Day
Alone - New Years Day
Dead to me - Melanie Martinez
Lunchbox friends - Melanie Martinez
Had enough - Breaking Benjamin
Wolf in sheeps clothing - Set it off

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This is the last thing I’ll post on this thread tonight. Because there on some things on that list I can tolerate in small doses I’ll just say what will end a friendship for me because I feel like we all have our own limits.

  • you make fun of me
  • you deliberately wind me up
  • you act like you don’t care about me but if I call you out you make me seem obsessed with you
  • you’re two faced (saying one thing to me but one thing to another)
  • this is gonna sound strange, I don’t care about people talking about me behind my back as long as I don’t catch you doing it
  • you make me out to be the bad guy
  • you use my past against me
  • you’re fake

If you do these on a continuous basis. It’s done.

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This is a great post, Jenna.

People tend to forget that toxic/abusive friendships exist. They can be equally bad as toxic/abusive relationships.

Recently, I had to cut ties with someone I have been friends with for 5 years (there’s a screenshot in the ranting thread if you need to read it) because she has shown a lot of signs that she has been toxic af!

  • She is aware that I have bulimia but decides to make it worse by pushing me to eat more until I feel guilty and start purging
  • Joked about my trauma when I tried to vent to her about this distant relative who tried to get me married off and encouraged me to start dating even though I made it clear that I am off limits.
  • Piles her problems onto me when I got a lot of problems myself
  • Constantly calls me when I need time to relax or when I’m busy
  • Gets butthurt when I don’t tell her anything
  • Continues her friendship with people that have been horrible to me in the past and I don’t trust them at all
  • Indirectly threatens me with violence just because I’m an ex-Muslim
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This is something I can’t stand. Like be friends with whoever you wanna be friends with but if I don’t like them don’t dangle them infront of me

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That’s exactly what she did.

There was this girl I stopped being friends with (some biyaaatch she’s still friends with) hung around with this creepy guy I instantly friendzoned because he was being so creepy after I told him that I ain’t interested. College years was nightmarish I tell you, these sickos were freaking arrogant! They had a habit of excluding people that liked similar things to them and oh man don’t get me started on these weeaboos, they were the worst!!

Honestly, she always talked about this other scene thot named Leah and she was another pain in the butt when I was in college. Like she looked down on me for no reason as to why I given up on being nice.

Also, I recommend keeping a Journal Of Toxicity where you write down why you are not friends with certain people anymore. A bit like a burn book.

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When I was in (I think) middle school, I was in a toxic friendship. The girl constantly made me feel bad about myself and I got bullied. Now I have generalised anxiety disorder

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I’ll be honest I don’t like the idea of a burn book, I’d rather just leave things be. I’d hate the idea of me being in somebody elses burn book for me being a toxic friend, I know in the past I have been pretty bad as a friend but it was a long time ago and I’ve changed significantly, I’m still not perfect but I try to be the best I can. Keeping a journal of people who hurt me reminds me of a line from the song perfect weapon “awake at night you focus on everyone who’s hurt you and write a list of targets your violent lack of virtue”. I don’t want to waste my time focusing on the people who hurt me, I just want to move on.

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It’s not exactly a burn book, it’s just an entry to let out your anger instead of doing something self destructive. Basically I write about what kind of friend she was e.g. freeloader, jealous etc.

There is book I highly recommend to anyone who needs help in ending a toxic/abusive friendship:

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This is also very important!

You should make sure you are not the toxic friend or that you are displaying toxic behaviour. For example, it you feel like you spend more time with one friend more than another, make more of an effort to be friends with them both equally, or maybe try to hang out with both of them at the same time. If you feel like you’re ghosting someone, tell them either by texting or directly that you would rather stay at home than go out with them.

True. But if you point out to a friend that you dislike their actions towards you then that should be a clear indicator as to whether they’re toxic or not.

A true friend would try to stop what they’re doing and realise that they’re actions are hurting you. A toxic friend would continue doing it because they know it hurts you so they continue doing it as a means of having power over you.

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Good point!

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Guess I’m nearly always in a toxic friendship then, even my family is toxic and I guess that’s why I’m broken now. :sleepy:

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It’s harder when it’s your family because it’s harder to cut them off. If they continue to display toxic behaviour even after you tell them to stop it then it’s a huge red flag. If you want to talk to me then I’m here.

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Today I was waiting for the bus and a girl I’m friends with told me that a girl I really don’t like might be coming back to college and that I’m silly for holding a grudge.

It is not silly to cut somebody from your life if all they have done is make you feel terrible and destroyed your self confidence.

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I can’t even cut them off cuz I’m only a teen.

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Thanks for adding my songs onto the list!

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No problem! I got a bit excited when you suggested the Melanie Martinez and Set it Off song because I like those songs too!

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Wolf in sheeps clothing is a song that means alot to me because I used to listen to it alot with a girl that song heavily applies to :joy:

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It is hard to get an older family member to listen to you when you’re still a kid, but once you’re an adult they can’t control you anymore. If things continue or get worse then you should get outside help.

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