Yeah and thank goodness the forums are nothing like that!!! I would honestly not be comfortable sharing that former opinion in public because it’s turn into a wokeness contest of which cishet person understood non-binary and trans people from birth and another one that understood it at conception…
And yes, compassion is always the answer! And growing and changing your opinions is a healthy practice that I wish people would try to do more often.
Lord, people do try to make everything a contest. Who has it the worst, who is the most woke, who has the bigger issues, who doesn’t have the bigger issues. If there’s anything in these communities that I’m super tired of, it’s that. For sure
I’m more tired of it though!
sorry
Oh no
I completly understand what she means ,Even tho I’m a white female who isn’t a minority of any sort, I just always thought this case was insulting, but in my head it was usually black people. How people just talk differently (nicer) to black people just becuase everybody else is nicer to them and if they weren’t they’d be called racist. … I’m kind of bad at explaining this but I hope you guys get the jist.
I think I get what you’re saying. In this case, you see ContraPoint’s side of things because she’s made to feel different because people have a different set of standards for her.
And you’re using the example that some (usually white, liberal) people treat black people with more deference (to their faces) because they don’t want to be racist but by treating them differently, they are being racist (even though it may seem better since they aren’t being “bad” racist).
Is that right?
If so, reminds me of a clip from a genius show, Arrested Development:
Yes that’s completly right
Honestly, that’s a good way of putting it that a lot of people would probably understand better than the dysphoria side. Since a lot people really don’t get dysphoria, but have a decent understanding of racism.
I think you explained it fine 
One thing I’ve decided from this situation is that I’m going to announce my pronouns whether there’s a trans person present or not. I can cope with a few awkward seconds if it means I’m contributing even a little to it being normal for cis people to state their pronouns
I know a lot of people dislike the idea of cis people having to alter their behaviour to “suit new ideas”, but it’s really not that big of a deal. It’s an extra few seconds.
Also, we’re happy to adopt new language when we get new technology. People who say “I can’t get over the grammar of singular they”, I have two responses for you:
I strongly agree with you guys so that’s why i’m liking all your posts.
I feel seen because I was one of those “but the grammar is awkward” people but I end my sentences with prepositions all the time at.
So yeah, grammar’s not an excuse.
And yes, I need to get in the habit of saying my pronouns upon introduction. It’s not much work and if it helps some else be more comfortable, I’m all for it.
Though on a tangent, I wonder how people can make other languages more inclusive like this, particularly Romance languages that differentiate between male/female “they” ellos/ellas in Spanish and ils/elles in French. (Since I’m now mostly introducing myself in French, it’s easy for me with she/her to say “elle” and possessive pronouns take the gender of the object, so no equivalent).
Any thoughts native speakers of of other languages like @Khrema ?
Cancel culture always cancels the wrong people. Like y’all didn’t cancel James Charles, Oprah or Trump, but try to cancel Michael Jackson and genuinely good people.
I wondered about the languages thing, to be honest! Even with languages with a neutral, referring to someone in the neutral tense sounds rude, awkward or ridiculous. It’s rude in my language. And I think it doesn’t work with Slavonic languages either. In French, I guess you could use “vous” for second person, but I have no solution to talking about someone in the third person 
Yeah, I don’t know any other languages but Romance ones, but I’m sure there are challenges in each type.
In French I think the second person “tu/toi” is ok since it’s gender-neutral already so it might be even more awkward using “vous”. There is a word “on” which means either we (informal) or one (as in “one does not simply walk into Mordor”). But it would be confusing with the whole “we” thing maybe?
I looked it up and there doesn’t seem to be a consensus but some people use new words like iel, æl, ille, eil, ol.
What would they do about adjectives that agree with gender?
I read one thing where they put a period in the word like petit or petite would become petit.e. Or if someone used æl, they’d add æ to the end, like petitæ. But this was just one Quora thread of a non-binary French person! But the language certainly makes things difficult.
Even the word for person, personne, has a gender (female)! There’s no escaping it…
[French language is regulated by The French Academy which is 33 (very) old white cis men and 2 white cis women. So yeah, they’re not ready for change at all. But I know some journalists and writers are trying to create a new pronoun : “iel”, a mix of “il” (=he) and elle (=she), it’s supposed to be a neutral pronoun and more polite since you don’t have to “guess” people’s genre. But it’s really not usual in our culture so far.]
Aaaand I just saw Kim already talked about it 
sorry.
I’m a neophyte and I avoid talking about topics I don’t know. Which may seem sad but I think we’re living in a world where everyone wants and needs to give their own advices and opinions like their lives depended on it. So, a little silent doesn’t hurt. haha
Most of the time, I use people’s name (no pronouns) so that I don’t end up hurting people. Grammar is so tricky!
On another note, Twitter is probably the worst place to have a smart talk. I’m sorry for Contrapoints who had to deal with these bunch of idiots. Anonymity brings the worst in people. 
(I introduce you to the Academy, these guys decide which words deserve to exist or not. xD)
There is a whole black guy on that list
And yet two whole Pierres.
