They called me an @sshole for defending pansexuals
because to them “bisexuality” is enough
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What if you’re Pan and NB? My friend is. 
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I guess you are transphpbic still according to them lol they didn’t think it through
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Lol.
My friend:: I broke the mold.
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Cishets
Bisexuals don’t have to be attracted to just male and female, they could be attracted to male and non binary too. I identify more as a pansexual because gender doesn’t matter to me.
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just gonna pop my opinion in here:
I view bisexuality as an umbrella term, ie attraction to two or more genders, with or without preference
pansexual falls under the umbrella and is attraction to all genders, with no preference.
People who say that you can’t be bisexual and date a trans person are transphobic
people who say you can’t be bisexual and date a non binary person are both transphobic and non-binary-phobic
People who say that pansexuality erases bisexuality need to stop caring so much, they’re just labels.
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The history of words
Bisexual meant intersex for centuries and still means hermaphrodite or bearing multiple differently sexed reproductive organs in several fields of biology including botany and entomology. Bisexuality gained its current sociological/sexological definition in the late 1950’s through the 1960’s, and pansexual was used to mean “homosexual to some degree” as early as the 1930’s by Dr Alfred Kinsey and peers. Both bisexual and pansexual gained something near their modern definitions in the 60’s.
What is bisexuality
Bisexuality is a useful label, and as a bisexual myself it is one that I am proud of. But bisexuality is a spectrum that means different things to different people… the most common definition I hear is “attraction to two or more genders” (though some other bisexuals might have their own definition), and those vectors of attraction are allowed to be different for different people.
What is Pansexuality?
Pansexuality, in the definition of “attraction to people regardless of gender” is probably best thought of as “a sexuality label for a common specific experience of attraction within the broader bisexual spectrum”. It isn’t biphobic to have a label describing one specific experience among several experiences. It’s simply a way for people to say “this is me, and I’m proud of who I am” and the specificity of the label is important for a lot of people.
These labels overlap, and that is ok… and the fact that there are pansexuals with biphobic ideas and bisexuals with panphobic ideas doesn’t mean that either label is incompatible with existence of the other. In fact many people like myself identify with both labels.
A note-
(Do not tokenise the fact that bisexual meant intersex, intersex people aren’t anybodies weapon in this dumb exclusionary culture war. This is just a matter of etymology, words change and “bisexual” used in its current definition is in no way intersexist)
Something on tumblr that might help you understand
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What if a bisexual becomes attracted to a person who happens to be transgender, but also cis-passing?
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the whole pan is only for trans people thing is transphobic and incorrect. trans men are men, trans women are women, trans non binary people are non binary, and a bisexual person can be attracted to any and all of them
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Pan = attracted to people regardless of gender. They don’t see gender.
Bi = attracted to 2 or more genders
And by your question they are still bisexual because the difference is that they still are attracted to a gender
For example a bisexual man can still be attracted to a trans woman. Trans is a adjective. But they are still a woman.
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But you could also say that it doesn’t matter because at the end of the day bisexual and pansexual are just labels.
exactly! «bisexuals are attracted to cisgender males and females» is an incorrect thing to say.
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