uhm, but the child doesn’t exist?
how do you know the child will have a great life? the world is dangerous. people die, people get kidnapped, get sold into sex trafficking, etc. people get harrassed, attacked, bullied to the point where they can commit suicide.
Just because you’re able to have kids, doesn’t mean you have to, nor should. As you know, there are plenty of people that had kids because they could, and now their kids are suffering with mental illness and many forms of abuse.
Also even then, if a person grew up healthy and happy, they don’t have to want a kid just because they’re able to produce. It’s not fair for the people who want to explore and do so many things with their life, not because it’s theirs and wanna "prevent someone else from having the same happiness" but because they don’t have the mindset, they don’t have the time, etc.
this is what i can see. it’s a goal of mine to have kids too. but you shouldn’t judge someone else for not wanting kids even if they are financially fit or mentally ready. kids can be an important factor in your life but if someone else doesn’t want kids it does not make them a selfish person
i’m not a breeding machine, like i said. if i don’t want kids even if i’m ready, i don’t need to have one and i am not selfish for that
Selfish is also a false term to use. It’s not selfish.
exactly. nobody should feel like their purpose to live is to have kids
Not quite sure what you mean, but you bringing a child and taking care of him or adopting one and doing the same are both a worthy thing to do, and the opposite of “selfish” (according to my logic ig)
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i’m not here to have kids bruh
that’s not the reason i’m living, and i definitely didn’t ask for this life either
Yeah, but as a parent, you can help your child to avoid that. Of course, shit happens and you won’t always be there but if you raise your child right, there would be less chances of those happening.
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people who are financially fit to have a parent aren’t always ready to have kids. and you should not judge someone for choosing their own way of life
how would the parent know if the child doesn’t tell the parent? the flip? not all parents are good at being there for their children which is why some suicides are successful. nobody knew they were going to commit and because they didn’t know they ended up dead
all i’m saying is, why wouldn’t you give someone the opportunity to experience the greatness in life, if you can do that?
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all i’m saying is, who are you to tell me i am being selfish for choosing a way of life?
That’s another good point to bring up. Even if you think you are doing your best and going about parenting in a healthy way, that kid cannot help what they might be born with, mental and physical health wise. Even if someone is born into a family that’s healthy, it’s very easy to end out being depressed and as what you said commit suicide Having kids just because you want them to inherit your name and what you want them to do is simply trying to create a doll you think you can design. It’s honestly stressful to a lot of people to try and be good because the family around them are that way (including maybe things like successful, happy, rich.)
my value as a woman or a human is not to be a caregiver, i’ll have you know
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If they’re not good with that, then they shouldn’t have the child yet. Also, this is like a friendly debate? I kinda sense some saltyness?
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Being a parent should include letting the kid be whoever they wanna be as long as it’s not psychotic. It’s letting them have the characteristics they want and learn their own morals and create themselves, not worry about people that birthed them telling them how life should be viewed and be lived.
and if someone is ready to have children, it’s their own choice to choose if they want to give birth. for you to judge other people and call them selfish is not only absurd but a very guilt-tripping move
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There is none. Also, on this forums, tone policing is not allowed.
Tone policing is coming at someone for their “tone” or way they said something. Argue the ideas itself, not the way ideas are said.