That’s you. If this is appropriation then a great many things is. Housecoats would be, since you clearly don’t know what a kimono is. If someone closes their housecoat or dressing gown left side first is that now a kimono to you?
Keeping clothes within a given “culture” and gatekeeping is segregation
You might as well stamp a badge on every Japanese person that marks them out as different
I’m someone who, as a half Jamaican person, really doesn’t mind seeing a white person with dreadlocks, for example. I know a white guy with dreads who’s lived and communed with rastas for decades. He gets why people wear them more than I do, so who am I to tell him if he can or can’t?
I’m just an advocate for education. If you get the history and significance behind something and you use or remix it respectfully, it usually shows
I never said it was and this is hilarious
Of course you don’t need to buy a kimono, that’s not the point here. The point is that no matter what you buy you from where you’re participating in some kind of shady dealings so fight against that system as a whole.
Plus you literally ignored all the information that was given about kimono’s and the fact that after looking into it, the people of the culture this affects do not care if people who aren’t from Japan wear a kimono.
Some might but definitley not a majority.
Thats literally dumb. Kimonos have a specific design and history and origin thats unique. I litwrally dont understand your point
Yeah, this isn’t the argument though, people on this thread are saying if you aren’t Japanese you need to throw this out without knowing anything about the retailer. That’s segregationist - because OP isn’t Japanese she is Not Allowed to wear kimono adjacent clothing to these people, they’ve horseshoed from hyperprogressive to fascist in three steps
As I said, if someone has studied the greats of Japanese design, they can come from any culture. However, taking something without so much as a nod to that culture and doing something to it that goes against its cultural significance is cultural colonisation. It’s pretty similar to what the English did with the British Museum, which is despicable. You have to work from understanding out first. Once you’ve done that, it doesn’t matter who you sell it to
History = people wear them
Design = a dress robe that folds over left side first with a sash and open sleeves.
What do you not get. That applies to dressing gowns too. You’re thinking of a very specific subset and type of kimono, you know nothing of the culture you’re white knighting
We’re pretending it does now?
People where? People in Japan who will hands on teach you? Where they are the dominant culture and have not have experienced appropriation in the same way? Yet many people in and outside Japan will still find this design insulting. Particurlaly disaporic identities who have had their culture stripped away and commodofied in the west where OP would seemingly be wearing this.
So yeah, you’re white knighting a culture you know nothing about because you’re projecting, basically
In fact, you’re right that that kind of gatekeeping can actually be damaging. There are FANTASTIC African designers who use their culture as a basis for their designs. Afro-Futurism has boomed partially thanks to Black Panther. Guess what? White people investing in and buying from them would be financially amazing. Gatekeeping what people can wear and participate in actually keeps money out of much-needed communities.
The moral of the story is buy from reputable designers. If you want to do the most good, buy from designers of communities that could use the money.
Yes, gatekeeping bad actually. I agree
Oh now this just sounds like you now don’t care what people from Japan say about their culture in favour of people who feel ostracised from it
I’m not sure why you’re being so confrontational with me. I’m sharing my views but I don’t mean to attack you in any way. If it comes across like that, I’m sorry? We might disagree on some of the small stuff, but that the end of the day, I think we both said that the manufacturers are to blame
I’m not being confrontational at all
This is how I talk, this is a very simple topic that some people here have made into a downright race war
Also tone policing, if I’ve come off as confrontational that shouldn’t matter
Being disaporic doesnt mean your ostracised? Also im saying both people in and out of Japan have said this and how respecting the kimono part of which includes buying from a Japanese desogner is extremely important.
But in which case, it is important that we buy from Japanese kimono manufacturers. Hopefully collectivised ones