You can’t even guarantee happiness for a child even if you are fit financially
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Thank…
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You will never be as good as your children…
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very true
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K bye
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No, it’s absolutely not. That’s like giving the baker the ingredients, but telling the baker who did all the work when you did nothing other than find ingredients that you deserve as equal amount of credit as them.
A woman gets pregnant once every 9 months, men can impregnate a dozen women in those nine months. All you do is give the sperm, the woman is the one doing the hark work and going through the pain of delivering a baby. Don’t compare the pain of a vagina and the 9 months of carrying to men who only give sperm.
A woman can also die in childbirth, most men have a penis. What are they risking?
Fathers deserve the credit through how they take care of a baby, not just giving the other half of the dna after one night
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I know that this died down a while ago, but I feel like it’s still important to state.
Tone policing goes against our forum rules, which you can find a deeper explanation about our tone-policing rule here. The forum runs a lot better when problematic content gets flagged, so I would like to remind everybody that the mods rely on flags from users and leaders, so please flag posts with content that goes against our community guidelines.
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what happened here-
This raises some serious issues for me since due to my father wanting me to have a “successful life” (since he views his life as successful) I’m now doing a degree I hate after getting qualifications that he either chose for me or didn’t present me with any choice for and from a young age made me believe the things I wanted to do weren’t worth it.
It sounds like quite a nice thing, to want your kid to have a successful life, I get that, I see where you are coming from. But saying they should grow up knowing how to be successful implies that there is only one route to success.
Now, for starters, success is a myth. It just isn’t real.
If you bring children in the world thinking they need to be successful in order to be happy then you are going to raise children who never feel good enough.
I hope your fathers values mean that your kids can explore their opportunities, know you are there for support but not to control and that they can find their own values and way of thinking instead of following ones that have been set in stone.
If you want your kids to have the best life then make sure it is their life they are living and not you pushing your values onto them and living vicariously through them.
And for the record some day I do want to have kids 
kids who I will see as individual people and not dolls that need to be kept in order and have every desicion made for them.
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of course, why not?
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This is really important. A lot of people forget that when they say that they wanna have kids or have kids.
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no, i don’t want kids.
Why not?
I don’t feel like I’m responsible enough to take care of multiple human beings who are dependent on me, let alone one. It also costs a lot of money to raise a child for 18 years.
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Mikhael: “Hahahahahahahah… hah…”
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lmaoooo
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and he faints
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I’ll never want any kids in the future. I’m already a proud mother of a beautiful black cat! Meow!
You’re not less of a human being, if you don’t want to have kids. People need to mind their business!
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I mean I’m still a teen so that would have to be in the way future but tbh the more I think about it, the less I want kids.
Because the thought of going through pregnancy and throwing up would be very very traumatic for me.
I mean I want to be a teacher and work on projects in the future to solve issues in the world. With work and all that stuff I doubt I’ll have time to be a stay at home mom, unless my husband or whatever wants to do it- which isn’t guaranteed I’ll have one.
This is going off the expectation that people will be financially able to have kids, will have time and a partner to stay home and take care of them. Which not all people have. Not all people have partners, not all people have time and money. And yeah, not all people want kids. It’s not selfish not to want them lol. Even for people who are “fit” to care for them, they just don’t have interest. Selfish should never be the word to use with the idea of having kids, in my opinion. Cuz having kids is seriously a big responsibility and should only be given to people who are both ready and want to have them. (Of course accidents happen and I’m not saying those people aren’t good parents- I’m sure they are absolutely wonderful).
There shouldn’t be the expectation that people should have kids, which is basically what I’m saying. There’s a bunch of toxicness associated with that. Like sexism and expecting the woman to stay home and be a stay-at-home mom. Or expecting the man to work and carry the household. If we don’t have the expectation that kids are supposed to have kids or that it is selfish for people not to have them, then we’re allowing people who actually want to have good kids to be good parents and raise good children.
I also hate the idea of selfishness and try to be selfish but also think of others at the same time- thinking of my own needs but also how I affect other people.
I think in the future I will try to foster kids to give them a space until their parents can figure their problems out, and maybe adoption if I can.
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