The Rap & Hip-Hop Thread

Update 03/05/20

  • Megan Thee Stallion and Beyonce have officially collabed! The Savage Remix ft Beyonce is out and ready to stream
  • Doja and Nicki also blessed us with a collab - the Say So Remix ft Nicki Minaj is out and so is the dance visualizer
  • Nicki subbed someone on the Say So Remix remix :eyes: the current theories are Beyonce and Wendy Williams :skull:
  • Drake unfollowed Megan and Doja (possibly due to them being connected with Nicki) :eyes: - he’s also released a most tape called DARK LANE DEMO TAPES
  • There’s also a theory going around that Drake released his project only to block Nicki getting a #1 but idk if this is true - do with this info/tea what you will :eyes:
  • RAY BLK delivered a lovely quarantine freestyle
  • Aitch’s new hairdo is raising a few eyebrows on UK Twitter :skull:
  • US V UK was trending a little while ago between US and UK rappers - who would you like to see go head to head in a theoretical healthy competition?
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Beautiful song.

Disappointing. Doja didn’t switch it up and Nicki’s verse did not fit. At all. I didn’t like the beat change it took away from the vibe of the original song.

Well, if Drake unfollowed them both then… :upside_down_face:

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Drake is always upset about something. Annoying af

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Honestly. Him and his predatorial flat behind. Calling him Drakarias from now on.

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Dude’s music ain’t even good either.

Also, welcome to the forums! I remember you from episode, haha

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I like some of his music doe-

I remember you too! I was wondering if anyone would remember me teehee :sweat_smile:

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Ngl, some of his old music slaps :eyes:

How’s it been though? (we should pm, lol)

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Update 11/5/20

This one’s extra special!

  • The Say So Remix has officially hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100! This is both Doja and Nicki’s 1st number 1!
  • The Savage Remix has officially hit #2 on the Billboard Hot 100! This is Megan’s 1st top 10, top 5 and top 2 BB 100 hit!
  • As for Beyonce, she is now the first artist to get a top 10 hit across 4 decades - 90s, 2000s, 2010s and now 2020s
  • Nicki has become the first artist to get number 1 on every Billboard chart
  • Doja and Nicki now join Lauryn Hill, Lil Kim, Shawna, Cardi B, Iggy Azalea, Lizzo, and Remy Ma as the only female rappers to get a number 1 on Billboard
  • For the first time in history, the #1 and #2 spots on the Billboard Hot 100 are occupied by solo black women :woman:t4: :woman:t5: :woman:t6:

:sparkles: :sparkles: :sparkles:

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As I said on Twitter, the black queens are winning today~

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I don’t see any similarities between Doja Cat and Nicki Minaj. They’re two different female rappers with different music style.

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True. Nicki’s style has moved more hiphop whilst Doja is very pop. Love both of their work!

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Exactly.

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Update 21/5/20

There’s been a LOT of conversation worthy stuff going on atm and I haven’t done a UO in a long time so I’m blending this update to make a mini opinion post!


1. Usher calls Nicki Minaj a product of Lil’ Kim on IG Live
The idea of a Nicki v Kim versuz battle was brought up and Usher said that Nicki was a product of Kim. The full clip of what he said is here

My 2 cents:
Well I’m someone who listens to both Nicki and Kim so personally tired of seeing the continuations of their beef :sweat_smile: Kim’s black barbie persona, consisting of her explicit lyrics and high fashion is the blueprint. She was harshly judged when Hardcore came out and she did break down barriers for rappers we see today. Kim did pave the way for Nicki but Nicki is not a product of Kim. Product implies Nicki was “made” by her but Nicki’s skill and work came from her and her alone. Nicki took Kim’s blueprint and made it her own and helped revive female rap for the rest of the 2010s.
Not only have they both moved on from the beef but they’re from different eras. It’s like comparing Saweetie to Eve or Megan Thee Stallion to Remy Ma. Weird and completely random!

Kim made the torch and Nicki kept the flame going. Both are legends. Next caller!


2. Tekashi 69 accuses Ariana Grande of buying her #1

Receipts and timeline
  1. “stuck with u” debuts at #1 this week
  2. 69’s “GOOBA” debuts at #3
  3. 69’s accusation clip
4. Ariana responds on IG and celebrates her #1

5. Justin Bieber responds

6. Manager Scooter Braun responds

7. Billboard releases an official statement

After “stuck with u” by Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande debuted at #1 this week, Tekashi 69 accuses the song of being a bought no.1. Justin, Ariana, Scooter and Braun and Billboard have all responded to his accusations

My 2 cents:
69 is literally a convicted pdf file and his music video for “GOOBA” was proven to have been given views via bots so this is EXTREMELY bold :clown_face: Everything this dude says and does should be taken with copious amounts of salt!

Not related to Ariana and Justin but in general, I do think it is possible to if not buy a #1, buy and/or manipulate events to get songs more exposure than usual. The music industry is a shady business and who knows what goes on behind the scenes :coffee:


3. Lana Del Rey name-drops Nicki Minaj, Beyonce, Doja Cat and more in a rant about double standards in the music industry

The rant

Who is Lana Del Rey?

Lana is considered the OG alternative pop girl and helped to establish the idea of pop with darker lyrics that covered darker topics with vintage aesthetics. She is referred to as “the queen of alternative” and has helped pave the way for newer alt pop girls such as Lorde, Melanie Martinez and Billie Eilish. Some of her work was considered controversial when it first came out, with songs like “Lolita” being accused of glamorising abuse.

The main gist of the rant is that certain female artists could have explicit songs whilst Lana couldn’t during her prime and was met with criticisms of romanticising abuse. She believes there is a double standard between her and those artists. This is the most recent update “event” so this might get another post.

My 2 cents:
Lovely gowns… beautiful gowns… ahem…
Yeah, no, so much of what she said is debunkable and the only “support” I’m seeing for her statements is YoU cAnT ReAd from LDR stans. Her point is valid but the “evidence” falls so flat. Yes, Lana received backlash for her songs but so did the artists she listed. The gag is Beyonce and Nicki specifically have faced even worse than she has so why they were listed is questionable. What I picked up one was this:

  • If she was just addressing her critics then she could have listed the specific publications that were attacking her instead of name-dropping other female artists
  • She mentioned “other alt artists” but no names have ever publically attacked her music. Again, if she’s supposedly holding the industry accountable then why didn’t she just do that.
  • Nicki and Beyonce have been criticised for longest. Beyonce was harshly judged during the “Lemonade” era calling out police brutality, the “feminism” backdrop incident, the black panther costumes plus the people crying about “Brown Skin Girl”. As for Nicki she was attacked when Anaconda was released, has been made fun of for her body shape and got straight up blackballed from the music industry.
  • Doja and Ariana’s 1# songs have nothing to do with the topics she mentioned. Plus it’s very dismissive to reduce some of these artists songs to be just about “cheating” when they’ve sung about the same topics of “being embodied” that she has if not for way longer.
  • Nicki and Beyonce were never praised by the industry for being explicit, they were praised by fans who streamed and supported them. The industry has never given these two this nonexistent upper hand. See again: Nicki’s blackballing
  • Using the phrase “for the culture” before completely overlooking Nicki and Beyonce’s struggles of misogynoir in the music industry and then asking for “feminism for women that look like me” when historically feminism has always been for women like her is very tone deaf.
  • “Can I go back to…” makes no sense seeing as no one was stopping her from expressing herself in the first place.
  • All the artists she listed are either hip-hop/rap, R&B or mainstream pop. None of these comparisons are make sense. They’re not even the same genre!

Long story short I have no idea what she was trying to gain with saying that. Again, a lot of it falls flat :woman_shrugging:t5: Also I have a feeling Azealia Banks will have something to say about this…


WHEW! My timeline has been a mess this week :sweat_smile: Lemme know your thoughts!
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Tags of people who might be interested

@PensiveShadow @liyahsdiamond @ChaoticDeluge @BrutallyBritish @anon82166736 @ELx @Madilfill @unsungcheerio @Januva

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Update 21/5/20 pt.2

Just so there can be some positivity :sparkles:

  • Today is actually Notorious B.I.G’s birthday and to celebrate Lil’ Kim just posted this rare photo of the two together before they were famous:
  • Doja Cat reacted to AURORAs new song “Exist For Love” :sob: :sob: :sob: as a massive AURORA stan I almost screamed when I saw this :joy: People are talking about a collab and I could see it happening seeing as Doja Cat is very versatile. I can imagine them doing a song that either sounds closer to AURORA’s “Apple Tree” or perhaps “Animal” or something that sounds like Doja’s “Streets” or “So High”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWSWG0QkQbw
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All of yours points and this one…chills, literal chills. :cold_face:

I agree with each one. I understood where Lana was coming from but it felt really backhanded and contradictory.

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So much info. wOoOO. :joy:

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He has a point but when Nicki said this y’all dismissed her as an angry black woman… :thinking:

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But they’re not ready for that conversation :tea:

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Isn’t Lana releasing new music? Every scandal = promo and publicity. This woman is basically 30. Why does she still have this “I’m nOt LikE oThEr GirLs” mentality?

This what happens when your unreasonable stans (which she has plenty of) delude you into thinking you’re one of the greatest.

As for Rainbow Dash…
???

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I don’t think they’ll ever be…

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